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Russia[edit]
Rockoons[edit]
- Rockoons (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG; all coverage both in article and in BEFORE search provides only WP:TRIVIALMENTION. WP:TVSERIES does not apply in the absence of reliable sourcing about its production. As an alternative to deletion, I propose to redirect to Soyuzmultfilm. Dclemens1971 (talk) 22:48, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
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Keep: I don't see how this fails notability. There are sources in the article. I must also add that the addition of the deletion tag seems premature as it was added only 9 minutes after the addition of those calling for the improvement of the article. Red White Blue and Yellow (talk) 01:39, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- I added them as part of new page review, which was when I did source analysis and decided they did not meet WP:GNG. Did you look at the (two) sources? They each have a single passing mention of the show, nothing close to WP:SIGCOV. Dclemens1971 (talk) 02:15, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- You're saying that the sources should only write about the show? At least they say something like the show is one of the selected ones in the country aimed for more international exposure. Red White Blue and Yellow (talk) 06:25, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- I beg of you to read the WP:SIGCOV page. It's very clear about the kind of coverage required. Brief passing mentions don't count. The sources you cited are fine to include in the article to validate facts, but they don't do anything to establish the notability of the subject. Dclemens1971 (talk) 13:05, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- You're saying that the sources should only write about the show? At least they say something like the show is one of the selected ones in the country aimed for more international exposure. Red White Blue and Yellow (talk) 06:25, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete or merge to Soyuzmultfilm. Article certainly does fail SIGCOV. It's all unsourced fancruft with both citations barely mentioning the subject in passing, as stated by the nom. The show has been around three years yet a Gsearch mainly turns up this while content for the show consists of YouTube clips. 💥Casualty • Hop along. • 07:01, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
Toko'yoto[edit]
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I wasn't able to find significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources. A possible alternative to deletion is a merge/redirect to Chukchi people. toweli (talk) 16:24, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
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SolarX[edit]
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No indication that this person is notable. Count Count (talk) 08:57, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom. Completely unsourced stub, and no indication of notability. Seems to me that it would even qualify for speedy deletion under criterion A7, but I'm not entirely sure, since the article has some history (and was created in 2005). CycloneYoris talk! 09:50, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - The musical act called SolarX has no coverage beyond basic streaming and self-promotional sites, while Dr. Belavkin is an academic who is listed briefly in corresponding professional directories. Neither way does he meet WP requirements for notability. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 17:54, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
Embassy of Belgium, Moscow[edit]
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Fails WP:ORG. Russian version of this article also only has 1 source. LibStar (talk) 05:00, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Belgium–Russia relations, where the embassy is mentioned, as an ATD. gidonb (talk) 03:11, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
Indo–Turkic people[edit]
- Indo–Turkic people (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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WP:OR article with no WP:RS to back it up. The previous citations were either not WP:RS (random websites) or were misused, not even mentioning the name "Indo-Turk(s)/Indo-Turkic". Couldn't find any WP:RS on these "people" either. HistoryofIran (talk) 22:50, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Speedy Delete A11. Mccapra (talk) 04:59, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Reviewed older version of the page before all sources were removed. Per nom, some sources were poor and others were misused as these had no mention on Indo-Turkic people but some brief about Indians and Turkish connection and interaction because of Sufism. Page fails WP:GNG and is a WP:SYNTH. RangersRus (talk) 21:51, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
Julia Kova[edit]
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The significance of the person is not visible in WP: MUSIC. Among the links are her official website and social networks.--Анатолий Росдашин (talk) 20:41, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
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Francois Esterhuyzen[edit]
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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. All I found was this routine news piece and a few interviews in Russian-language media (1, 2, 3). JTtheOG (talk) 20:44, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Weak keep I think there's enough in the Russian coverage to suggest a weak keep for WP:GNG. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 18:59, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
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Luhansk People's Republic–Russia relations[edit]
- Luhansk People's Republic–Russia relations (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Does not meet Wikipedia's general notability guideline. Aldij (talk) 11:04, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep - has articles in two non-English portals of Wikipedia, has plenty of room for expansion and a fair amount of relevant sources. Sufficiently notable.
- Brat Forelli🦊 01:06, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Merge. Any content in this article would be better handled in International recognition of the Donetsk People's Republic and the Luhansk People's Republic. Yilloslime (talk) 19:48, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - Sourcing appears adequate to fulfill GNG for this timely piece on the economic relations between occupied rebel Eastern Donetsk and Russia. Carrite (talk) 15:41, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
Gemma Khalid[edit]
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Significance for WP:BIO is not visible.--Анатолий Росдашин (talk) 03:18, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep. I added some references from the corresponding article in Russian. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 16:09, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
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Others[edit]
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Science[edit]
List of important publications in cryptography[edit]
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Inherently original research. Compare WP:Articles for deletion/List of important publications in computer science (2nd nomination). Was previously kept at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of important publications in networks and security but I think this is worth a reevaluation a decade later. * Pppery * it has begun... 17:13, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete such a list can never have a policy-compliant WP:LISTCRIT because "importance" is subjective. BrigadierG (talk) 18:46, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: One alternative is a move to List of publications in cryptography without "important", while applying Wikipedia notability as the WP:LISTCRIT.Also, the same discussion is applicable to List of important publications in science, List of important publications in chemistry, List of important publications in medicine, List of important publications in mathematics, List of important publications in physics, List of important publications in statistics, List of important publications in data science, List of important publications in geology, List of important publications in economics, List of important publications in philosophy, and List of important publications in pedagogy. — MarkH21talk 19:27, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- This is not workable, few individual publications have an article so it would be unclear what should be listed. Reywas92Talk 20:34, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Reywas92: I see dozens of the entries in these lists with standalone Wikipedia articles. That's more than enough and is a clear criterion. See List of important publications in mathematics, List of important publications in physics, and List of important publications in economics for example. — MarkH21talk 21:03, 7 June 2024 (UTC)Oh sorry! If you meant cryptography specifically, then yes there are too few. — MarkH21talk 21:05, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- It seems like pretty much all of these date from the really early days of Wikipedia, well before the project had clearly defined guidance for list criteria. I don't think any of them are very good articles and probably would be in favour of a healthy dose of WP:TNT. I think List of publications of X with a notability criteria is the way to go - but that can't happen without blowing up all of these articles and starting over. BrigadierG (talk) 21:11, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I meant the nominated article but most others are also short on wikilinks. Even those that have articles, though, are almost all books or very old or written by the most famous scientists. Practically no journal articles would ever have an article. I don't think a list of primarily textbooks would be good content for a list of publications. However, if the criteria is simply being a publication with a WP article, that could also end up including books that aren't important yet someone happened to find some reviews and write and article. While I agree that "important" is subjective, are there actually any problems with these lists? Have people been arguing about what should be on them at all? Reywas92Talk 22:36, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Reywas92: I see dozens of the entries in these lists with standalone Wikipedia articles. That's more than enough and is a clear criterion. See List of important publications in mathematics, List of important publications in physics, and List of important publications in economics for example. — MarkH21talk 21:03, 7 June 2024 (UTC)Oh sorry! If you meant cryptography specifically, then yes there are too few. — MarkH21talk 21:05, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- There's a separate article at Bibliography of cryptography (which I moved from Books on cryptography). * Pppery * it has begun... 22:47, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- This is not workable, few individual publications have an article so it would be unclear what should be listed. Reywas92Talk 20:34, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
Interesting Engineering[edit]
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Written extremely like an advertisement and has many other problems. Myrealnamm (💬pros · ✏️cons) 17:01, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete good web presence, but the only mentions of it I can find are on places like Reddit. The article trying to WP:INHERIT notability from other news outlets that have cited it is telling. BrigadierG (talk) 18:52, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
Typical medium dynamical cluster approximation[edit]
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Page probably created by students in the group of the originator of the algorithm. All relevant refs to the method are from one group, there are no secondary sources. It should be trimmed down to a paragraph or two and merged into Dynamical mean-field theory since it is a variant of that very well established and used approach. We should not have separate articles on every minor DFT variant IMO. Ldm1954 (talk) 08:03, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Merge & Redirect per nom. Likely COI issue. Barnards.tar.gz (talk) 08:23, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Ldm1954: The TMDCA is a well established method that warrants a page of it's own. It introduces both spatial correlations and order parameter that is currently not available in any mean-field theory, including the dynamical mean field theory. It is just as saying that the page for the
- Coherent Potential Approximation and dynamical mean-field theory should be merged. Both these two approximations are exactly the same at the thermodynamical limit, but focused on different aspects of the physics. I respectfully disagree with the notion of merging them and do not support it. SrihariKastuar (talk) 15:03, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Merge & Redirect per nom. Likely COI issue. Barnards.tar.gz (talk) 08:23, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Ldm1954: Both the DMFT and TMDCA are robust approximations that address some of the most challenging problems in condensed matter physics, and they truly merit recognition. Regarding the citations, they're not limited to just one group. In fact, there are seven additional citations from various other groups. As you might be aware, it's common for the initial citations of a method in physics and in science in general to have the imprint of the developer, much like what you see with the DMFT citation, for example, where 95% of the current citations on its page are from the original group. CEE (talk) 15:15, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Ldm1954: just to add every human being, including yourself has some level of COI. While I have never used the TMDCA before, I am a science enthusiast who appreciates the hard work and dedication of people to solving scientific problems. Please, let's move past this to focus on other things. SrihariKastuar (talk) 15:19, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Click both link and just write the TMDca approach is very good tools to understand the ground state properties etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 113.199.253.44 (talk) 15:50, 7 June 2024 (UTC) — This comment was transferred from Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chinedu Ekuma where it was misplaced; I offer no comment as to its value, nor do I have my own opinion or comment on this nomination. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 17:02, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment It would really help if the page author identified the three best sources, i.e., three peer-reviewed publications that provide in-depth discussion of the technique but were not written by its original inventors. XOR'easter (talk) 19:28, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- @XOR'easter: thanks for the clarifications. There are over 100 combined independent citations using one form of the typical medium or the other. I will list some of them below in no particular order:
- 1. https://journals.aps.org/rmp/abstract/10.1103/RevModPhys.90.025003 - Nice review of modern physics discussing the importance of nonlocal correlations
- 2. https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.118.036602
- 3. https://journals.aps.org/pra/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevA.92.063621
- 4. https://journals.aps.org/prb/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevB.109.094203
- 5. https://journals.aps.org/prb/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevB.106.214205
- 6. https://journals.aps.org/prb/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevB.104.165102 CEE (talk) 23:36, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
Chinedu Ekuma[edit]
- Chinedu Ekuma (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Assistant professor with an h-factor of 22 and no notable awards and no notable mentions. Novice editor (his first article) ignored AfC declination and moved to main space, twice deleting COI tags. On new page patrol both notability and COI were tagged and draftified; novice editor removed tags and a moved back to main space. Hence AfD. Ldm1954 (talk) 07:48, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Pro forma, pinging @Whpq and @Liance who previously tagged/reviewed versions. Ldm1954 (talk) 07:54, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
Delete. I know nothing about Chinedu Ekuma beyond what is in the article, and that does not add up to notability. For a young scientist his career is respectable, but that's not enough. He may become notable in the future, but he's not there yet. Athel cb (talk) 10:26, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Note for any editors reviewing this AFD, the article is an autobiography. See Talk:Chinedu Ekuma. -- Whpq (talk) 12:14, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Self-promotional. I could not locate any independent sources. Barnards.tar.gz (talk) 12:32, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: It seems he's been involved with solar cell research [1]; the innovation might be notable, this professor isn't quite notable yet. Very PROMO and COI doesn't help. Oaktree b (talk) 14:40, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Oaktree b (talk) everyone human being has some level of COI. I do not know of any bio written for anyone where the individual writing it does not have some level of knowledge of the person. Otherwise, how is it even possible to write a bio?? The write was transparent enough to even report COI and asked for the community input SrihariKastuar (talk) SrihariKastuar (talk) 23:48, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. Assistant professors have rarely had the time to accumulate enough impact to become noted (by others in their field) and therefore notable (to us). The exception would be someone who gets a major international award (the kind that says this person is already a star of the field) or a major media splash for some discovery. I see nothing of the kind here. That would already lead to a weak delete !vote from me, but the self-promotion makes it into a full delete. —David Eppstein (talk) 17:48, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- David Eppstein (talk) I do not think that this is a fair assessment. He spent more than 6 years in the National labs before going to university. Notability is not defined by number of years in a university SrihariKastuar (talk) 23:45, 7 June 2024 (UTC).
George Walker (educator)[edit]
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This subject fails WP:GNG and WP:NACADEMIC/WP:NSCIENTIST. Third-party (independent, non-primary) sources lending significant in-depth coverage appear not to exist, and are unlikely to crop up in the future. JFHJr (㊟) 17:04, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
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Axel Hultgren[edit]
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He was no doubt a metallurgist, and I see that he wrote about metallurgy, but I do not see a lot of reliable secondary sources that would constitute significant coverage. Fred Zepelin (talk) 16:46, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep the subject was elected a member of the Royal Swedish Academy of Engineering Sciences in 1930 and of the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences in 1945 so passes criterion 3 of WP:NPROF. Mccapra (talk) 18:21, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. In addition to the four pages in w:sv:Jernkontorets Annaler referenced in the English article, Swedish Wikipedia references an entry in Vem är vem inom handel och industri?: 1944–1945, so that would be a couple of different sources having significant coverage. /Julle (talk) 20:53, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. As a third source for WP:GNG we have this clipping from a Swedish mining guild, Sancte Örjens gille . And the two academy memberships give a double pass to WP:PROF#C3. —David Eppstein (talk) 21:27, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - Third party sources. WP:GN applies as well.BabbaQ (talk) 23:33, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per Mccapra AlexandraAVX (talk) 09:10, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: I agree there were no source but since the article define itself, the nominator may have bypassed WP:BEFORE. An elected member of a notable society meets WP:ANYBIO and as such, there is possibility of meeting WP:GNG and sources. Clean up is the best way of cleaning such articles. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 11:33, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: Per Julle -- Robertjamal12 ~🔔 17:48, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
2-Pyridone (data page)[edit]
- 2-Pyridone (data page) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This is not an article what so ever, why we need such a data page on Wikipedia? Requesting merge to 2-Pyridone or move it to Wikidata if possible. -Lemonaka 16:28, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Merge with 2-Pyridone: Most of this would go in an infobox on the chemical, the rest is too specialized for Wikipedia. Oaktree b (talk) 19:34, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- Merge to 2-Pyridone as per above. Context-less, but useful, data with no supporting article. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 01:16, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: I fully agree with the above comments that this information is much more specialized than I would expect to find in Wikipedia. However, I want to note that creation of such a data page is recommended by WP:CHEMBOX.. The proposed contents of such a page in the template Wikipedia:Chemical infobox/Data page appear (to me) more useful than the information on the 2-Pyridone data page, but still rather specialized. I don't know if the editors above are aware of such data pages? Given this, I wanted to clarify whether the issue here was the contents of this specific page, or whether there should be a wider conversation about changing WP:MOSCHEM? Mgp28 (talk) 15:12, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- We don't need every peak on the NM IR or which spectral lines it makes. This is more for the Merck Manual than a general encyclopedia. I'm not adverse to simply !deleting this either. Oaktree b (talk) 14:50, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- Perhaps I was over-thinking it. I wondered if all of these Category:Chemical data pages would need consistent outcomes. I found a few discussions, such as Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Chemistry/Archive 36 § Data pages and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Chemistry/Archive 50 § Chemical data pages - move to Wikidata?, and the consensus seems to be that they're decided on a case-by-case basis. So I'm happy to !vote delete (or merge) here and not worry about the rest of the data pages. Mgp28 (talk) 22:15, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- We don't need every peak on the NM IR or which spectral lines it makes. This is more for the Merck Manual than a general encyclopedia. I'm not adverse to simply !deleting this either. Oaktree b (talk) 14:50, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
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I think CS2 should point to either Counter-Strike 2 or CS2 (disambiguation), rather than Carbon disulfide (CS2)
Googling "CS2" overwhelmingly shows Counter-Strike 2, and the names have been used interchangeably by most who are familiar with the game, including the developers.[2]
Out of the articles shown on CS2 (disambiguation) that could arguably go by the name "CS2", carbon disulfide is the lowest-trafficked, and Counter-Strike 2 the highest [3]. BugGhost🪲👻 21:02, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Change the redirect to disambiguation as proposed. The are oh so many things spelled similarly. --Викидим (talk) 21:20, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to Counter-Strike 2 but add a hatnote to the disambig page --Lenticel (talk) 04:01, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget and hatnote to Counter-Strike 2 per nom. mwwv converse∫edits 15:19, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget and hatnote to Counter-Strike 2. I highly doubt most people looking for information on carbon disulfide don't also know its full name.
- Thanks,NeuropolTalk 15:24, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Move disambiguation page to the base title. I don't see a clear primary topic and redirecting this to the disambiguation page would result is a WP:MALPLACED page. In addition, the abbreviation has been used for a long time, and redirecting it to Counter-Strike 2 would create WP:RECENTISM problems. - Eureka Lott 17:45, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Move disambiguation page per EurekaLott. I don't feel that elevating the game to the status of primary topic is justified. Nickps (talk) 19:14, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Science and Video games. Nickps (talk) 19:20, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Move disambiguation page to base title. I am not convinced that search hits relying on the internet-based nature of the gaming community are adequate justification for WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, any more than the fact that Google Scholar hits overwhelmingly refer to the chemical would be adequate justification for choosing the other topic as primary. —David Eppstein (talk) 21:10, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Disambig per "Counter-Strike 2 is more likely to be searched, but not fully the primary topic either per WP:RECENTISM" Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 23:26, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Disambiguate No obvious primary topic. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 23:42, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Disambiguate per the above, this game is too new to guarantee that it will be the primary topic forever. Toadspike [Talk] 17:14, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment - My memory from being a teenager 20-odd years ago suggests that CS2 was a common way to refer to Counter-Strike: Source back in the day (despite it technically being the 3rd installment of the series). If this was true, the association with CS2 to Counter-Strike may be much longer lasting and enduring than WP:RECENTISM would suggest. Buuuuut... I'll admit personal anecdotes are not data. Is there anything like google ngrams that can search internet forums from back in the day? Fieari (talk) 23:54, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- I don't even play CS but I would think the Source version is more known as CS 1.6 which has a redirect. – The Grid (talk) 17:00, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- Not to get too far off topic, but Counter-Strike: Source and Counter-Strike 1.6 are two different games, released in 2004 and 2000 respectively. Regarding CS:S as being referred to as "CS2" - this could be true historically, but I doubt many would refer to CS:S as "CS2" today after the release of Counter-Strike 2. BugGhost🪲👻 12:21, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- I don't even play CS but I would think the Source version is more known as CS 1.6 which has a redirect. – The Grid (talk) 17:00, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- Updating my position: Disambiguate - The disambiguation voters have swayed me, I think moving the contents of the disambiguation page over to CS2 makes the most sense. BugGhost🪲👻 12:28, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
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